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Currently we only ship via United Parcel Service (UPS) for boxes up to about 9 cubic feet (15,500 cubic inches). These boxes we only ship on our own UPS account. Bigger boxes go by Motor Freight Carriers (YRC usually).

UPS and FEDEX have instituted changes in shipping costs in a most negative manner. They now charge for size if the box doesn't weigh much. This is called "dimensional weight". The post office already does this on many boxes as well

It now is ESSENTIAL that you plan orders. If you want to order one air cleaner by itself fine; but you are going to get absolutely HAMMERED shipping it.

PLEASE NOTE: We have NO CONTROL over what carriers charge and the numerous extra charges they have. Please refrain from verbally attacking us over this.

We have some common box sizes listed below and their "dimensional weight" that is now charged i.e. 166 cubic inches = 1 pound. If you have a box that is "rated" at 5 pounds and your item weighs 1 pound you pay for FIVE pounds so whatever you throw in the box does not change the shipping. Can change the insurance (about $1 per $100.00). We may start listing minimum box sizes necessary to ship certain parts on the revised pages of the website that are ever-so-slowly appearing.

Starting last year we began dropping prices to try to compensate for the ALREADY high TRUE costs to pack and ship something. This will continue. It is kind of sad in a way as I see some things; especially lower cost used items being scrapped over this turn of events. Less work for me I guess; but I really wanted more of this stuff to be part of a roadster somewhere and not sent to make more Chinese crap.

We are still fighting the idea of raising prices on parts or keeping them higher than we want to offset the shipping costs. Doing that punishes the heck out of people who are ordering a bunch of stuff; they are just hit over and over again as parts go in the box. I acknowledge this may be backwards thinking these days. There is no free lunch; it is like these phony "cash-back" charge cards. Merchants just figure that garbage into their prices. Why not make it 20% cash back? Merchant just jacks the prices 20-25% to allow for the customer "feeling good" about their 20%...


BELOW COSTS FOR WEIGHT ARE VALID; BUT NOW 1 POUND BOXES CAN "WEIGH" 2-10 POUNDS. STILL...THIS IS AN ESTIMATE; ANYTHING BELOW WE HAVE NO CONTROL OF.

If we can make it LESS, we will! Over a year we do NOT make money on shipping but we do strive to break even. This is frustrating for us too; but I want to continue the battle to get the parts' cost down and not try to hide the shipping in that cost. If you plan your orders better you'll still come out OK.


GROUND COSTS USA

Zones are distance from Seattle

Zone 3 approx 200 miles (Portland, Spokane)

Zone 5 approx 700-1100 miles (San Francisco, Los Angeles, Denver etc

Zone 7 approx 1300-3500 miles Chicago, Little Rock and points east.

ZN

WEIGHT

COST

      

ZN

WEIGHT

COST

3

1 lb

$23

5

10 lbs

$51

3

5 lbs

$29

5

20 lbs

$56

3

10 lbs

$39

7

1 lb

$27

3

20 lbs

$51

7

5 lbs

$37

5

1 lb

$27

7

10 lbs

$53

5

5 lbs

$33

7

20 lbs

$64

Above chart is just an ESTIMATE


Remember your "1 pound" box will not be "1 pound" if it is over 166 cubic inches in volume. (see above and below)

PLUS

ANY APPLICABLE UPS EXTRA CHARGES
(All amounts below are "approximate")

Add $3 if your zip is listed on UPS' "extended area" list or about $4 if on their extended-extended list ($7 if Hawaii, $16 if Alaska extended area. This is on UPS' website somewhere if you want to check.

Add $5 for signature card (some orders) depends on value and location etc.

Add $3 insurance if order is $100-$300 then $1 per $100 or part of $100 after $300

Add $13 if the address you gave is wrong (in the slightest). Even if just sent as a backup; an email makes sure everybody knows what's what. (no apt number etc)

Some shipment to business buildings may be $3 less. UPS decides what is and is not a business building.

UPS will also charge extra if the item is not in a box ($10) even if it is sent in an indestructible container; over 48 inches long ($12) and a host of other hidden conditions.

 

CARRIERS NOW USE "DIMENSIONAL WEIGHT".

Weight prices still correct; but now any box "weighs" as follows (even if empty). "Dimensional Weight" is inches Length x Width x Depth divided by 166. This is the minimum weight a box this size is charged at. It will be charged more if it actually weighs more. And of course if the parts weight that amount anyway none of this dimension weight business means anything; still the same cost.

We will probably begin to make notations on the web next to various big light-weight parts to help let people know what's up with this. The chart below is just some examples.

 

BOX SIZE

MIN. WEIGHT

PART EXAMPLES

6 x 6 x 6

2 POUNDS

8 x 8 x 8

4 POUNDS

10 x 10 x 10

7 POUNDS

12 x 9 x 6

4 POUNDS

24 x 6 x 6

6 POUNDS

24 x 8 x 8

10 POUNDS

24 x 14 x 4

9 POUNDS

Softop, W/strip Kit

32 x 14 x 5

14 POUNDS

Softop, W/strip Kit +++

33 x 18 x 5

18 POUNDS

48 x 10 x 9

26 POUNDS

Dashcover, Exhaust

Figured to include most packing or handling costs. If additional charges are in play for packing we can advise you by email. The current UPS fuel surcharge which is I think about 8% is also included. This varies monthly.

Typical shipments have a $6 packing and processing charge; included in the chart. We have found this works better for people than raising all the prices to get rid of it. The cost of processing and packing an order varies by the shipment. As always; tiny orders are EXPENSIVE; as you go up in order size the shipping becomes a small factor.

With the exception of the pack/process charge we put on and the charge for the box itself; all of this can be found on UPS website at UPS.COM. Go to it and have some fun!

Chart includes a charge for a basic box; this CAN VARY. Box and packing charges may or may not be listed separately. On some big orders for instance, we expend a great deal of time custom making a box to save you the extreme cost of motor freight or airline shipment or to get under one of UPS price-jump lines. We have adopted this policy rather than tack costs on to every hard to pack part, which isn't necessary on many shipments and would tend to drive the overall total price up.

Basically; other than the $6 charge we put on every order and the cost of the box; it goes to UPS or the bank. In a year UPS manages to eat up all but about $3 of that $6. So yes; we are MAKING MONEY ON THE SHIPPING. (not). If we just dropped the stuff at one of the private post office places it would be a lot more. And no the cost of the part covers none of this; that goes to keeping the place going; keeping disgruntled employees of which I am one from taking it to the metal processor; to try to defer the loss of having to buy the stuff 40 years in the past to be able to sell it now and not putting the money into something that makes sense; paying for insurance, taxes, power, building maintenance, vehicles, health coverage for ancient humans...you know the drill if you have worked for yourself or spent time at a micro-company.

Shipping; as ugly as it is...IS WHAT IT IS and I can't do anything about it unless someday the post office starts carrying about the packages entrusted to them...

 

DELIVERY Details:

USA 48 STATES for boxes up to about 2x2x2 (feet)

Most shipments go by UPS (United Parcel Service) in the USA.

With the constantly increasing complexity of United Parcel Service it is very hard to accurately figure a price; and very time consuming. To give you an idea of packing and delivery costs on UPS shipments in the 48 states, we have compiled the following chart. This is only to help you estimate charges. This is PER BOX, not per shipment. We always try to pack and ship in the most economical configuration, but certain orders may require more than one box. This is JUST A GUIDE, not cut in stone. Unusually heavy or bulky items are figured on a time and material basis. If it works out less; it WILL be less; we don't look at the chart and think that is what the charge will be if it doesn't have to be.

We can only ESTIMATE charges. You are welcome to set a maximum on any order you place, if we cannot ship it for that price we will email you and let you know we are cancelling the order.

You'll get a better idea after you receive a few orders but I can tell you that if you order things one part at a time the delivery costs are going to be a lot. The cost per part to ship goes down drastically as you add items. A little "order planning" on your part will save you $$$$.

If we can find a way to lower what your order ends up we will do it. It is what it is; and there is nothing we can do about it; but wonder why someone would order one tiny thing at a time; multiple times.

Be sure to give your EXACT address. An inaccurate address will usually result in the box being returned, or delayed with a $12 charge added ($14 if Air). This is generated totally by UPS. If you give us "3304 Adams" when you are actually at "3304 Adams St." or "3304 Adams Lane" or you leave out a "W" , "SE" etc, or forget an apartment number or suite number. If the address you give is not totally correct UPS they will charge this.

If a box is returned due to an address problem or no one home UPS now charge to return the box to us as well.

The best way to protect yourself is to EMAIL your order or at LEAST your address. Emailing your order gives you an exact record of what you ordered and the address given.

For 3 day air multiply ground estimate cost by 2 west of the Rockies; by 3 east of the rockies. Again; we'll always try to make it less.

Air Costs vary tremendously up or down depending on distance and the weight and size of the box. If we can make it less, WE WILL.

We do not use "2 day" or "overnight" or "Saturday delivery". I'm pretty much done apologizing for delivery times I have ZERO control over. We only use "3-day air" east of the Rockies as typically a ground box will make it there in 3 days of travel time.

SHIPPING ALTERNATIVES?

The post office is getting better; but they recently told us they don't check for 3 weeks when we tried to check on a lost AIR shipment. Is that what you want to hear from us when your parts are not there??? I think not. We are looking into it for some small parcels and will adjust this page if things change. Other businesses have told me it can take 6 months to get paid if there is a problem.

Recently a USPS business rep contacted us; I spent almost an hour writing out a response to what was just a sales contact for him; listing the problems I see with using the postal service; I was not cynical or angry or nitpicky; if anything I was hopeful. I was hoping he would come back with ways to reduce or eliminate any potential problems. To date I have received NO RESPONSE which to me means any problems I mentioned WILL happen. Still hopeful; but always a bit shocked when silence is the only answer to an inquiry...

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